awful lot more dialogue, there's an awful lot more -- many children will say that there is no racism in america. but when you look at the numbers in terms of incarceration in this country and you have 2.5 million people incarcerated over 53% of those people are people of color -- >> so important to address. >> exactly. >> we are just out of time. thank you very much for coming on. >> my pleasure. to you tube.com. i'll see you back here at 8:00 p.m.